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Post by hyrit on Oct 21, 2010 23:30:45 GMT
Well my first review is up and running I made this to have you guys comment on it any way you like I encourage critisism, so please, if you feel like I can improve something, feel free to point it out
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Post by Eyz on Oct 22, 2010 9:30:02 GMT
You really nailed that "reviewer"-sort of voice and presentation! Top notch work man! Is it your first vid'? I'm not much of a critic (in this day and age where everyone acts like such..) so I'll just say: - good presentation, cuts, video well edited~ - huh..I had a negativ comment, to point you out, yesterday after the video..but I sort of forgot it and can't rewatch it at work here.. I'll let you know as soon as it hits me again
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Post by frobman on Oct 22, 2010 11:02:55 GMT
As I told you before, I liked it! Top notch work so far. But I must say I especially love the artwork for the vid. Whoever made that must be a real handsome and incredible genius~!
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Post by hyrit on Oct 22, 2010 11:05:55 GMT
As I told you before, I liked it! Top notch work so far. But I must say I especially love the artwork for the vid. Whoever made that must be a real handsome and incredible genius~! I say, I think I can hook you two up sometime~
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Post by Eyz on Oct 22, 2010 12:08:25 GMT
I'm pretty sure that guy who did that pic must be some sort of psychopath...his artwork shows signs of madness, you hear me. MADNESS!!
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Post by hyrit on Oct 22, 2010 12:41:26 GMT
I'm pretty sure that guy who did that pic must be some sort of psychopath...his artwork shows signs of madness, you hear me. MADNESS!! I think he's suitable enough to make my preview pics then isn't he? He's actually one of my best online friends, so don't say stuff that'll hurt him ....sooo what Im saying is you can pretty much continue to call him a nutball for madness
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Post by ZoDy on Oct 22, 2010 13:08:18 GMT
I was totally suprised that Jurassic Park 3 was about DINOASAUR'S! Gosh D: but yeah as I said when I first saw it I liked the format, the fact your being fair about movies rather then most youtubers just say ''I HATE THIS MOVIE I HATE THE ACTORS! I HATE THE SCENERY I HATE HATE HATE!!!''
Still love that bit with the Raptor ''RabbleRabbleRobble!!''
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Post by Ultra the HedgeToaster on Oct 22, 2010 13:24:25 GMT
Yeah, you two have quite similar art styles! You have a lot to learn from each other.
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Post by lukethef0x on Oct 22, 2010 14:43:51 GMT
As i said before when you showed it to me it is a very awesome review and loved the way you tore into this movie, but for some reason your voice sorta 'echoes' when voicing over clips of the movie.
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Post by hyrit on Oct 22, 2010 17:05:43 GMT
Still love that bit with the Raptor ''RabbleRabbleRobble!!'' Seriously, everyone I showed it was like WTF when thye heard that, you are really the only one who liked it as I do XD Yeah, you two have quite similar art styles! You have a lot to learn from each other. we have similair art styles? Frob and me? first time i heard that... As i said before when you showed it to me it is a very awesome review and loved the way you tore into this movie, but for some reason your voice sorta 'echoes' when voicing over clips of the movie. Ah yes, I heard that too! wonder where it came from, I was in the kitchen when recording so perhaps its due to that XD sorry if it bothers...
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Post by ontels on Oct 22, 2010 17:46:09 GMT
Pretty bad Nostalgia critic rip off, I onlly chuckled onece at the movie ending with the Pteranodon's ass joke.
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Post by frobman on Oct 22, 2010 17:54:12 GMT
Still love that bit with the Raptor ''RabbleRabbleRobble!!'' Seriously, everyone I showed it was like WTF when thye heard that, you are really the only one who liked it as I do XD My favourite line is still "I saw that guy die in like... 5 other movies."
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Post by Double-S-NL on Oct 22, 2010 19:10:34 GMT
Very good work yes indeed, and the critics and all are so true XD and nice hidden joke for the dutch ones among us =P
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Post by digitalfate on Oct 22, 2010 19:21:55 GMT
You did a very good job on this, but I say both the sequels weren't as good as the original, heck when Jurassic Park came out it jump all the way up to the highest grossing movie of all time (before inflation) and stayed there until this movie called Titanic knocked it off, now Jurassic Park is the 14th highest grossing movie before inflation.
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Post by rogerfromimp on Oct 22, 2010 20:56:35 GMT
Okay, I watched your review now twice, and I'll now note some positive and negative points, which you can use on future episodes or not, whatever. And remember, even if I sound negative a lot, doesn't mean I didn't enjoy watching it. Plus I can write 5 or 6 laundry lists of things that bother me in big name reviews from Thatguywiththeglasses as well, since I'm just like that. Anyway, as your first review, you're still in your "finding the groove" phase, so here are some pointers that may help:
positive: -Why, thank you for making it a point to not rant about actors or directors or that sorta stuff in general. Keeping a more positive attitude is certainly a bit more fresh.
-Good camera view when we see you too. I prefer the "we watch you from a distance" shot, as if we're in the room with you, rather then the "reviewer looks right at you and looks like a jerkass while shouting at the movie" shot that most people do.
-Other then the echo that's been noted by Luke, it's good clear voice quality, I can clearly hear what you're saying. That's nice. Ahh, and thick Dutch accent of course. Can't blame you tough, it's hard to remove your accent. I can hide my accent as long as I'm doing short to regular sized lines, and as long as I'm reading of a script, but as soon as I have to explain a lot of stuff from out of my head I sound awfull too.
-You mostly kept the information relevant, so watching the review goes by in a decent pace. Well done.
Negative:
-You don't sound convincing when you sound angry. Only the "SHADDAP!" sounded good, very good, and maybe one or two other lines, but most of the time you try to sound annoyed, it sounds too forced. Better practice acting a bit more. That, or have a more optimistic attitude while riffing, but I get to that later.
-I like riffing on illogical behavior from characters, but not when the characters are stressed/ hysteric/ surprised, etcetera. It's kind lame to comment how dumb movie characters are when they're suddenly attacked by dinosaurs. If I'm walking around at night, half asleep, and suddenly a guy with a chainsaw jumps at me, I assure you I will make some very stupid decisions in the ensuing panic, despite my INCREDIBLE and brilliant intelligence I usually display. So ranting on Mrs. Kirby for running hysterically in the jungle is kinda cheap. Although considering how much you hate her, I guess you take on every invitation to point out her stupidity.
-Aww, you used the term "Dino babies" but didn't use the themesong from that cartoon show? And no mentions of Mrs. Kirby= Kirby? Normally I hate random pop culture references, but with these you actually had a decent hook to tie them in, so it would have made me chuckle.
-Maybe it'd been more amusing if you actually showed the clip of Grant's final words to Billy rather then you telling us yourself. A minor thing but would have improved the joke.
- I don't mind cursing much, but I am from the school of "Cursing only works when sparse and precise." thought. Don't use "fucking" to much for minor things that bother you. I know cursing = humor to most viewers, but I think it's a lot more effective if you save them for specific points where you're really angry at the movie. To give your anger more of a "woa, now he really lost it" exclamation mark, without having to resort to over acting.
My last, but main point. Finding your identity amongst other reviewers. You proclaimed you wanted to have a more positive atmosphere with your reviews then most critics, and I noted your annoyed act doesn't work quite well.
Take the Barney scene for example. There's a tense action scene going on that's constantly interrupted with the kid in the room watching TV. It doesn't work. Now you rant a bit about it, so us, the viewer go "oh yeah, that's stupid" but don't really laugh. If you want to give the review a more optimistic flair, and probably get more laughs, is instead of just ranting or talking about it, to join in and exaggerate it (tough please not as how the Nostalgia critic does it. I hate it when he starts acting "wacky", that just doesn't work outside from cartoons.)
But with editing. Say instead of your review persona being annoyed with the movie, you claim it as a MASTERPIECE, and go "Wow, those moodswings totally make the scene more tense!" and then edit a scene yourself MORE EXTREME. Like say you improve a very serious scene (I would say a scene from Shindler's list or something, but that might be too offensive..) and put ridiculously happy moodswing scenes trough it, to make your point. That'd probably make your point stronger and makes the review more funny. Plus more optimistic. Blowing up the movie flaws is more fun then just complaining about it.
Also, tough this is my personal taste, so this advice might be completely useless, but I prefer digging into the "Why" and "how", tvtropes style. What bothers me with most movie riffers is that they barely scratch the surface of the TRUE problems in a movie.
You pointed out that all nameless characters with no plot relevance immediately get killed off. Pure cannonfoddr characters that is. You could go deeper with that. Make a running gag about it. It WILL happen a lot more in movies. See, every Jurassic park movie, and every monster movie for that matter, always have a few typical cliches' that always get's back in these movies, typical Hollywood morals. You observed and ranted about each of them ,but never really explained them or noted that these are continuos Hollywood problems. That is:
A) Drama= family issues. A movie about dinosaurs and monsters and danger and a hero who must escape. Plenty of tension and drama right? Wrong. According to Hollywood, we can't have drama and the audience won't give a damn when there's no family drama involved, because movie watchers demand they can recognize themselves into the characters. Plus Steven Spielberg is obsessed with Father/son relationships anyway, tough he wasn't involved with Jurassic Park 3, I guess they tried to keep his style.
This results in Grant's girlfriend suddenly to be married with another guy, the worried parents looking for their kid and the other damn kid at home. All 3 plotlines that are irrelevant and annoying. But these scenes are ALWAYS in monster movies like this. Despite most of us would prefer a movie about just a bad ass hero kicking ass on Dinosaur island, Hollywood demands all characters are your average Family loving Joe generic guys and that means we must have cheap soap opera levels of romantic tension. After all, how can a monster movie possibly be exciting without family issues?
And then B) Pure and noble nature versus EVIL HUMANS AND CORPORATIONS. You noted the stupid ending where the flying dinosaurs escaped Jurassic island and all the main characters were totally cool with it? Same happened in lost world I remember. I'm not sure if that's a cliffhanger for future movies, but most probably it's a typical hollywood "And noble nature wins again"... despite the fact that noble nature is the antagonist in the movie.
Look at any monster movie, and you'll notice that the monster is never truly evil, or even considered the main villain. There's always the A)Government spy B) Military general C) Rich cooperation businessman or D) All of them, who are the REAL evil villains. Never mind the fact that each of these 3 types of people are logical, good and necessary (governments want to control things! Well yeah, what else are governments for? You want total panic? Military generals are always obsessed in protecting their country! Which is wrong and evil because....eh.. And businessmen earning money! How dare they! If only we didn't have an economy, and nobody would be interested in money, then we'd have a true utopia filled with...people un motivated to ever do anything, causing all industries and civilization as we know it to crumble. See? EVIL!
Every Hollywood movie seems to have stern anti money, anti government and anti military stances (notice how weapons are always useless in movies like this? You noted yourself with the airplane exploding supergun) Despite the fact that Hollywood itself strives on business, strict rules and control and lot's of violence. The hypocrites.
I wish more reviewers would notice these trends and themes and do something with it. Most reviewers barely scratch the surface of how truly stupid and hypocrite most of these movies themes are.
Woa, huge text there. I could almost film my own 25 minute review with that.
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